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Questions: She Pushes Guys Away, What Should I Do?

Why do some girls push away every guy they date?

QUESTION:

Hi Robby,

I’m not really sure what to do with this one girl I really wanna be with. Aside from other issues with her and in my life, she’s really really closed and pretty much rejects every guy in her life even when she’s going out and he just wants to kiss. She even didn’t want a relationship with the guy she really likes, so my question is, what should I do? Should I keep hanging out with her, trying to get something (we’re just friends at the moment) or should I keep my distance?

~ Dan


ANSWER:

Hey dude, this is a tough situation.

The reason most women have big barriers up (closed off to men) is usually some type of past trauma, or deeply flawed inner beliefs (blame Mom, Dad, creepy Uncle Frank, or religion.) This means her inner body (emotional body) has trauma and feels raw, and so she guards it with her outer body (pushing men who want to get close to her away.)

I’ve dated MANY women in this category so I know what they’re like.

Here’s the problem.

They’re a lot of work.

And it requires YOU to be SUPER SOLID as a man in order to invite a woman like this into your life emotionally or intimately.

This means, if she freaks out, or has a break down around you, YOU have to be like a Touch Stone. Safe. Honest. Sincere. And unmoved. Unreactive.

If she swears at you and yells and makes a scene, you can’t react. No reaction. Just silence and stillness.

Women like this (or anyone with inner pains) require gentleness, patience, and someone they can trust. This might be you, if you can be unreactive, objective, and non-judgmental.

If you can be this guy, unaffected by her emotions, then you have a chance.

You see… her emotional body is healing and is sensitive to touch (emotional touch) so she doesn’t want to open up to someone for fear they’ll hurt her.

But if she sees that you’re unjudgemental, always calm and un-emotional, she’ll learn to feel safe and secure around you, even when she’s feeling upset.

Know what I mean?

So this takes patience and time.

Be Her Touch Stone

This DOESN’T mean you should “just be friends.” You MUST continue to escalate emotionally, and physically, in an effort to keep the relationship rolling, and the sexual tension cooking.

But in her case you have to escalate SLOWER than normal. If she’s not comfortable kissing, then you need to start way back, and escalate to something smaller.

Then, over the course of a number of “dates” you simply do a little bit more, in baby steps. Emotional escalation and physical escalation.

Emotional escalation is basically you learning to trust each other with secrets, and stories, and personal stuff you don’t normally share. When you are willing to be vulnerable around her she’ll learn to trust you.

Physical escalation can happen at the same time. Like, sitting close. Touching legs. Then touching hands (read her palm and be gentle with her skin.) Holding hands. Then whispering a funny joke in her ear in order to give her neck goose bumps. Then holding her hand for a few moments, perhaps when crossing the street, or stepping off a curb. Then kissing her cheek. Then touching her arm while telling a intimate story from your past. Then kissing her quickly on the lips.

At any time she might object. That’s normal and okay.

This means you simply take one step back (not all the way back to nothing, just one step back from kissing, like just holding hands.) Then you give her more time, like another date. Then you gently kiss her mid date again.

And so on.

Persistence wins every time, trust me.

Ultimately she might not be into you, which means she’ll stop going on dates with you. BUT if she’s on a date with you then she’s telling you WANTS you to escalate… just do it slower than most girls.

Taking your time makes you STRONG and a GENTLEMAN.

Let me know how it goes,
~ Robby


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12 Responses

02.17.11

Rob you said it right. I agree with you on the man taking his time if she is showing a little resistance. I went out with a guy that I really really liked but did not feel safe or secure yet to get intimate with. He was very pushy and it seemed he had very little patience to wait it out. We had been dating for about three weeks at most. At one point he picked me up and took me to his room which I think was a bit too much; mostly because I didn't know if his intentions were pure.

What I mean by that is was he just looking to get laid? I stopped him that night and went home. I was feeling major anxiety to have the I am not that kinda girl conversation and he freaked out. He said that he couldn't believe we were even having this talk because it was much too early for that. What? Much to early to talk about anything so heavy? But on the other hand sleeping together was not!

As much as I liked the guy my morals and the fact that the guy couldn't handle my emotions or be my touch stone as Robby mentions, I knew it was done. He was a little too concerned about what he wanted and that was a huge red flag for me.

In the end I met someone that took his time, a gentleman, listened, was un-affected by my emotions (if they snuck out), patient, and took little steps…like hold my hand. It was me that wanted to ravish him because his intentions were clear. He made sure that I was always comfortable and his concern for me and not his needs won me over. Rob you are a master on this subject and I wish you much success;) Good luck Dan!

cc

02.17.11

yes, about religion. what if she is pushing u away because she is really super religious and you are not? i believe the physical attraction is there (she's constantly checking me out), but because im not religious like her, i have no chance. that's what she told me after our second date. she still does initiate communication, but i think she just wants to be friends. can you help me out here? thanks robby. i appreciate all your blogs

02.18.11

It's pretty hard to work against someone's inner belief system, like religion.

Often there are religious beliefs that make men and women ashamed of their sexuality, or ashamed of any sexual activity… like being sexual is some how wrong (trust me, it's not.) We even have huge social stigmas and judgemental words for women – sluts, whores, easy, etc. It's hard to rewire that in a girls head who doesn't WANT to change.

Sooooo… if your goal is to have a girlfriend, or to get laid, then I would suggest finding a girl who's much more open to being with you – intimately. Otherwise you'll be fighting a losing battle.

But if you simply want to be with her, even if it takes months of getting to know her, then take your time and be persistant.

Flirt with her, tease her playfully, and spend time with her alone. This will allow her time to grow more fond of you while proving to her you're patient and trust worthy. It's a slow road, but some girls are worth the wait.

Just be sure to pay attention to the REAL her when you're with her… because some belief systems can be so different from yours that you'll never find a common ground, and will therefore never truly connect.

I always say this… choose your perfect woman with your head, because you can't trust your heart. Once your head says she's worth it and safe THEN it's okay to open your heart to her.

Because our emotions will have us chasing every hot piece of ass from here to Haiti.

Remember… it's not about what's best for her, it's about what's best for YOU. She is responsible for what's best for her… that's not your responsibility.

~ Robby

04.01.11

I've been dating off and on a woman like this that I really care for, she is difficult and a lot of work but I have always thought she was worth it. The struggle I sometimes have is that she is a bit immature (this is tied directly to her past trauma) and in turn can be disrespectful. My question is: how can i stay unnaffected when we feel like she has seriously disrespected me? In general why should we stand there and get yelled and cursed at and just take it, as you mention above. I really treat her with care, respect and love, shouldn't she be held responsible at some point for doing something that was out of line and just not okay with me?

PS brilliant blog, this stuff got me back on track after I got dumped by an ex girlfriend of 2 years for being a needy mess, can't thank you enough.

04.04.11

Hey dude, that's a great question!

I guess there can be two versions of a "girl freaking out."

Version 1) She's yelling or screaming because of some crisis… like she lost her purse, or she's scared she's going to fail an exam. This is her being emotionally expressive and erratic.

Version 2) She's yelling AT you in a disrespectful way. Either because she enjoys fighting or arguing, or because she's emotionally unstable.

Version 1 is the version I was referring to in my above blog post. The reason you need to stay calm is because your calm will bring HER calm. As a man you need to ALWAYS maintain composure. The greatest sign of maturity is composure in the face of adversity. So when she see's your composed even in the midst of some trauma (like a car accident for example) she'll learn to rely upon YOU for guidance, direction, and safety. Plus you'll feel your own confidence and pride growing the more you practice composure.

Version 2 is very different. You can't just ignore her if she's being disruptive and rude in your face… like a bratty spoiled child who's learned that they can get what they want if they create enough of a fuss. You can't ignore this behavior, so you MUST address it. But not with conflict, because conflict is what she's seeking. When a woman (or anyone) creates disruption through anger or disrespect they're seeking attention.

Bad behaviors (like angry fits, or negative attention seeking) need to be punished, while good behaviors (lovingness, sharing, etc) should be rewarded with love and attention.

Here's what you're doing wrong…

You're rewarding her bad behavior. This only encourages her bad behavior.

You've already said "she's difficult and a lot of work" and that she's a struggle. And how do you reward her? By giving her more attention. This tells her that what she's doing is working.

Have you ever heard the saying, "We teach others how to treat us?" Well now you have.

You've taught her that she can be difficult and that it's okay with you.

There's a part of you that's decided that you're not worthy of someone who might treat you better, and so you've settled on this girl. And you probably take on her difficulties with pride because you've convinced yourself that you're being loving when nobody else would be, and that she's lucky to have you. And even if it's true, you've missed an important truth…. you're NOT responsible for anyone else's happiness. Only when you're a parent of a baby are you truly responsible for someone else.

Each of us are responsible for OURSELVES: our own feelings and our own reactions to the world around us. You are NOT responsible for how your girlfriend feels. EVER. You are only responsible for how you act, behave, think and feel. And she's responsible for her own thoughts, feelings, and reactions.

What do I think you should do?

a) You should allow yourself to have enough self-respect that you're no longer willing to let someone else treat you poorly.
b) You should realize that you're not responsible for making anyone else happy, especially any immature girls you're dating.
c) You should learn how to handle someone who IS being belligerent towards you. And the best way? Is to walk away from them.

It's our ego's that get hurt when someone disrespects us, but I've learned that the ego can't be trusted. So when it's hurt it's reactions aren't valid. This means that you shouldn't take anything personally that someone else says about you, or to you. Because nothing anyone else does is about you… it's always about them. Always. Every time.

It's your ego that wants you to stand and "defend" yourself, but this is immature. You don't need to defend yourself because deep down you already know who you are and what you're capable of. It's not for someone else to define. Therefore anything someone else says about you (good or bad) doesn't matter. Therefore there's never a need to defend yourself.

But that also means there are better things for you to put your time and energy into, so standing around allowing your girlfriend to berate you is a poor use of your time.

Instead you might try laughing (at her miserable attempt at insulting you) and leave the situation. Walk away. It's the most powerful thing you can do. This tells her that you have no time to argue with her because it's beneath you, AND it tells her that she can't win if you're not there.

Then, when she's normal again, you can re-engage her. Have fun and enjoy dating.

But if the relationship is built upon arguing and fighting, then what the hell kind of relationship is that?

I'm divorced and I can tell you that it's the best thing that ever happened to me. I grew up fast and now my beautiful girlfriend is the perfect woman – she is always happy and laughing and makes my life amazing! And all because I was willing to walk away from someone who wasn't bringing to the table what I wanted, and didn't appreciate what I was bringing to the table. Instead I became more selective, and now I couldn't be happier.

I hope you do the same. ;)

~ Robby

04.05.11

Hi I agree strongly to what Robby mentioned earlier regarding reasons why she is pushing the guy away. Speaking from past experiences in my own life I was that person who pushed people away…. the "good" guys away…due to past experiences from how my mother was with me growing up (with her there was always lots of drama) so i grew up in that atmosphere, I didn't even know what I was doing till many years later when I decided to make changes in my life and found myself a good therapist to speak with, speaking with her made me realize that i was constantly pushing away the "good guys" because there was no drama in our relationship they were everything that one could wish for in a good partner but to me i was so use to the "drama" that i found it boring and in turn "pushed" them away, yet when I was in a unhealthy relationship that's when I seemed to want to make it work and did everything in my power to make it work. (why???…cause its what i was accustomed to …drama.

I know it all sounds crazy but that's what I did! Like Robby mentioned "its alot of work" it is….in any relationship it takes work but with someone who has walls built up to avoid being hurt or whatever the case may be it takes extra work. The real question here is are they worth the extra work…if they notice that they are doing this and are willing to get the help to break down those barriers then yes it is worth the extra work, for the Men out there you do indeed need to be patient and show them that they can count and trust on you (trust is a huge part of this) be the go to "safe" person in their life, it takes time and patience but with these key things its like taking a chisel and slowly chipping away at the wall, its a slow process but in the end I am sure it will be worth it for both parties involved.

04.05.11

Awesome, thanks Teresa!!

07.07.11

some girls have "trauma" from 10 years doing drugs, partying, dating loser drug addicts musicians.

Now its my responsibility to break down those walls?

you might say, if she is worth it, then you will continue to pursue her

yea she is worth it but something just doesn't seem right about it

07.08.11

Hopefully I didn't imply that it's "worth it" to continue to pursue broken women, because it's not. And I know plenty of guys who unconsciously think it's "their duty" (think Knight In Shining Armor) to save these women… because it's not.

09.19.11

These posts really resonated with me. I used to be one of those patient guys doing the right thing and being supportive. While I did have great relationships with so called "broken" women, it's not worth it. If a woman or man can't be happy with themselves, how can they be happy with someone else. You have to be an emotionally sharp and tough guy or girl to deal with a person who has this level of baggage. It's not your role to be a knight to rescue someone because that's how the relationship will become defined. Once you've done the rescuing, you'll no longer be useful to him or her. Some will benefit from your "wrench time" that you put in since you were the catalyst for change and will always be a reminder of the issues she had and wants to get away from.

I agree everyone has baggage, but I don't make it my partner's responsibility to have to put up with me or make my baggage her baggage. My recommendation is to date a girl who has her issues already sorted out/comfortable talking about them and you'll be ten times happier where your relationship can evolve into something great. It's way better than dwelling on the past.

I used to have my issues sorted them out before dating someone. It's a matter of personal accountability and awareness that many folks don't have. I so damn tired of all the "poor me" daters out there who want people to pander to them. Regardless if your a man or a woman get a partner who on the same mental level as you and spare yourself the heartburn.

01.09.12

Every post here has been enlightening! I mean honestly, congratulations everybody because it has been an incredible comfort to read all of your fantastic perspectives.

Considering everything i've read, I can't seem to place the young lady i'm committed to. I love her, so naturally i'm protective and insistent on providing the tools or shedding light on the path toward happiness, success, and love. I very much understand that these are things we as individuals choose and define for ourselves.

My question is both infinitely simple and infinitely difficult. How do I know i'm doing the right thing being her stone? Meaning, as much as she communicates that she needs my love and efforts, I feel like i'm dragging her kicking and screaming.

I am a strong and secure man and understand what I require emotionally. I do see and feel the potential in her. My instinct tells me to continue fearlessly and provide the love without end. However, the rest of the world demands my attention and focus and continually reminds me that there may be other options better suited for my dedication.

Where do I draw the line? How will I know I made the right decision and not guilt over thinking I could have done more? I mean, if we the ability to help others, why would we choose not to?

Help everyone! :/

01.13.12

That's a super deep question, and hard to answer without being you.

My only advice would be this…

It's okay for her to lean on you for support and help, from time to time.

But if your entire relationship is one-sided, where she's always leaning on your in order to feel good, then it's going to eventually tire you out. And I can easily see you growing resentment for all your efforts going unreturned.

This is me assuming that I know what you're talking about. It sounds like you're her crutch. That your relationship together is a bridge she's using to feeling good about herself.

Don't be her bridge. The relationship should be about sharing each other's good vibes, not one side draining the other side in order to feel safe and happy.

I think it's noble for you to try to guide her to a place where she can build her own self-esteem and inner levels of happiness. I think that's an amazing thing to help someone with. So keep at it as long as you're willing.

But don't become a martyr who's forfeited their own live passions and directions simply because they feel responsible for someone else.

You're NOT responsible for her life and how she interprets it. Do your best to share your love and perhaps help teach her tend to her own garden…. but don't do it forever… she's not your lost child who forever needs your support. Teach her but then give her the space to walk on her own.

How long you're willing to help her is something you might want to discuss with her. And discuss with yourself! That way you don't suddenly surprise her with "I'm leaving" out of the blue in 6 months.

I'd like to hear how this goes…

~ Robby

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